FII Order Books on Exchange

Suppose an FII need to purchase RELIANCE shares. Do they place the purchase order on the identical order e-book as on which, I place my promote order for RELIANCE. That’s to say after I see the market depth of RELIANCE, does that knowledge comprises the orders by FIIs additionally?

Or they’ve separate FII/DII window like bulk/block offers window?

@nithin Are you able to please reply this?

Suppose an FII need to purchase RELIANCE shares. Do they place the purchase order on the identical order e-book as on which, I place my promote order for RELIANCE. That’s to say after I see the market depth of RELIANCE, does that knowledge comprises the orders by FIIs additionally?

Except these are block/bulk offers, all different sorts of trades occur within the regular market. So the market depth of any inventory you see will include FII and DII orders as properly.

To know extra on bulk/block offers try.

Quoting from Rediff, additionally explains distinction between block and bulk, that most individuals suppose is identical.
What’s block deal?
In response to Securities and Alternate Board of India a block deal is a single transaction of a minimal amount of 5 lakh shares or a minimal worth of Rs 5 crore and is finished between two events by means of a separate window of the inventory alternate that’s open for under 35 minutes to start with of the buying and selling hours.
So in a block deal, the customer and vendor already know …

hese are block/bulk offers, all different sorts of trades occur within the regular market. So the market depth of any inventory you see will include FII and DII orders as wel

bulk offers trades are additionally occur within the regular market. So the market depth additionally exhibits bulk orders as properly.

am i proper ?

bulk offers trades are additionally occur within the regular market. So the market depth additionally exhibits bulk orders as properly.

Ah yeah. Solely block offers don’t present up.

@nithin

To additional increase on this thread, what are the completely different members in Indian markets and what are their entry channels?

Are you able to assist verify/appropriate this record:

Retail merchants by means of retail brokers
HNIs by means of brokers / DMA
FIIs, DIIs by means of dealer / DMA
Prop Desks, Market Makers, HFTs by means of DMA

No matter channel – dealer or DMA, the order e-book we see comprises orders from all members. Is that appropriate?

Is there some other channel apart from those listed above by means of which one can commerce in listed securities. Like Darkish Swimming pools and so on.?

Additionally, in case of entry by means of dealer, dealer ensures shopper has sufficient funds/collateral to settle the trades.

However in case of DMA, does alternate take accountability of this danger administration? Or is their a danger of the likes of HFTs having a free run and never having the ability to settle their trades on a black swan day?

Additionally, how a lot can be share of every of those members when it comes to:

Fairness Possession
Each day buying and selling quantity

In Fairness
In Fairness Derivatives together with Index Derivatives

Please some one make a loooong thread with full knowledge.

At all times wished to know who controls , who’re the most important participant, energy gamers & their strategies and so on

Have some thought however not full thought.

Somebody please

@nithin @ShubhS9 @viswaram @Jason_Castelino @Meher_Smaran

Are you able to assist verify/appropriate this record:

Retail merchants by means of retail brokers
HNIs by means of brokers / DMA
FIIs, DIIs by means of dealer / DMA
Prop Desks, Market Makers, HFTs by means of DMA

Verify this NSE journal and web page 205 onwards.

https://www.nseindia.com/analysis/publications-reports-nse-market-pulse

These are all of the sorts of members.

No matter channel – dealer or DMA, the order e-book we see comprises orders from all members. Is that appropriate?

Sure, the whole lot aside from block offers, as I discussed earlier. The volumes present up after the deal on the traditional market depth window, however the offers themselves occur in one other window.

Is there some other channel apart from those listed above by means of which one can commerce in listed securities. Like Darkish Swimming pools and so on.?

All orders get executed on the alternate. So no darkish swimming pools and so on. You possibly can test this submit.

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Additionally, in case of entry by means of dealer, dealer ensures shopper has sufficient funds/collateral to settle the trades.

However in case of DMA, does alternate take accountability of this danger administration? Or is their a danger of the likes of HFTs having a free run and never having the ability to settle their trades on a black swan day?

Even in DMA, the dealer is accountable. So, even DMA orders undergo some dealer danger administration. I had written on an identical matter earlier.

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Additionally, how a lot can be share of every of those members when it comes to:

Verify the NSE market pulse journal. You can too test for this each day on the NSE web site.

Please some one make a loooong thread with full knowledge.

This can be a broad matter, laborious to have one looooong thread. I’ve written about most bits right here on Tradingqna or on Zconnect blogs. You’ll have to dig in.

Sure, the whole lot aside from block offers, as I discussed earlier. The volumes present up after the deal on the traditional market depth window, however the offers themselves occur in one other window

What is that this different window? What’s the mechanism behind it? Who gives worth quotes on this window?Assuming large fishes use this different window to commerce, what actually strikes the markets within the window/order e-book we see?

Sorry for asking too many questions however this has actually piqued my curiosity.

Due to you Nithin and Karthik, you’ve actually democratised buying and selling and the entire ecosystem round it.

What is that this different window? What’s the mechanism behind it? Who gives worth quotes on this window?Assuming large fishes use this different window to commerce, what actually strikes the markets within the window/order e-book we see?

Already answered this right here

Quoting from Rediff, additionally explains distinction between block and bulk, that most individuals suppose is identical.
What’s block deal?
In response to Securities and Alternate Board of India a block deal is a single transaction of a minimal amount of 5 lakh shares or a minimal worth of Rs 5 crore and is finished between two events by means of a separate window of the inventory alternate that’s open for under 35 minutes to start with of the buying and selling hours.
So in a block deal, the customer and vendor already know …

If two establishments have agreed to commerce at a sure worth, they will do it on this separate window. In the event that they attempt to purchase/promote on the traditional market it is going to be laborious to execute a deal like this.

You possibly can monitor the block deal exercise right here on NSE.

https://www.nseindia.com/market-data/block-deal-watch

Verify this FAQ if you’d like.

bseindia.com

FAQ-Block_Deal.pdf

Huge fishes commerce on the traditional markets itself.

wow, retail has extra power than fii and dii/mf mixed?

and does fii orders in fno seems in our common market depth or they’ve seperate marketplace for fii like reward nifty?